A Sense of Doubt blog post #2819 - SoD Reprint of 1292 - De-objectify Women in Comics
Reprint today for Comic Book Sunday.
This is a good post, one of my favorites on comic books.
Tuesday, September 4, 2018
A Sense of Doubt blog post #1292 -
De-Objectify Women in Comics
Day at the beach today. Taking our Labor Day. So a quick share. Original content is still in process.
I originally saved this material to be published in 2016.
FROM:
http://www.heroicgirls.com/de-objectify-women-comics-guide/
http://www.heroicgirls.com/frank-cho-quits-wonder-woman-asked-hold-cheesecake/
How To De-Objectify Women in Comics: A Guide
By Renae De Liz
The following was originally posted on Renae’s Twitter feed. It is collected and reprinted here with permission.
As an artist, what can I consider if I want to de-objectify and add power to female characters?
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| How to De-Objectify Women in Comics by Renae De Liz |
Want to challenge yourself to focus less on objectification & more on character? You’re helping change things & you’ll be MY personal hero. 
Drawing women sexy is an automatic response to many artists. Done without thought. I was like that for many years until I recognized it
If you choose to draw women sexy, that’s fine! Discussing alternatives and recognizing patterns should not threaten you.
My intent is to help those who WANT to promote change in their work (which can be challenging). Not to shame those who choose otherwise.
I chose Power Girl (with boob window) because she’s often objectified, and to show even she can be drawn differently if an artist considers certain things.
- (Left) A common expression in comics. Eyes are lidded, mouth is pouty. It’s look to promote a sense of sexiness & lessens personality.
(Right) Personality and uniqueness first. Think of distinct facial features outside the usual. Promote thought in eyes. What’s she thinking of? - (Left) Commonly taught way to draw breasts (OR fully separated/circles/sticking out). The intent is to highlight sex appeal. It’s not realistic for a hero.
(Right) What’s REALISTIC for your hero? Athletes need major support (i.e sports bra) which have a different look. Consider not ALL heroes have DD’s. - Arms are closer to supermodel size on the left. What best fits your hero? If she’s strong, she’ll likely very built. Give her muscles!
- Hands on left are set in a way to promote the sense of softness, it lessens her power. Be sure hands are set in a way to promote strength
- (Left) It’s common to see “the arch n’ twist” in comics. A female arched and twisted to show both cheeks AND both boobs.
(Right) Twists in the body are a powerful art tool but stick to what can realistically be done, and use arches w/o intent for “boob/butt perk.” - One on left feels like she’s posing. The right feels like she’s standing heroically. Make her overall pose functional vs. sexually appealing.
- Heels! Modern heels are generally used to amplify stance & increase visual appeal. I like them, but if I were a hero, not too realistic. Most important is what would your character choose? It’s very difficult to hero around in stilettos. Perhaps consider low/no heels.
ANOTHER NOTE ON BREASTS: If your hero has a zippered top, DON’T unzip it! Breasts can easily fall out during hero work, which would be silly
If nothing else, consider this: Would I do this to a male character? (ie, would you perk out Batman’s butt and twist him to see BOTH his pecs?)
I just touched the tip of the iceberg with this. If you have your own advice, please share it!
Renae De Liz (Legend of Wonder Woman) is an Eisner-nominated artist. You can follow her on Twitter or check out her blog to see more of her work.
Frank Cho Quits Wonder Woman After Being Asked to Hold the Cheesecake
Incredibly talented and equally immature artist Frank Cho has just rage-quit his prime gig as a variant cover artist for Wonder Woman because DC didn’t think we should see Diana’s panties. Actually, according to Frank, it was all evil writer Greg Rucka’s fault
As Cho told Bleeding Cool:
Incredibly talented and equally immature artist Frank Cho has just rage-quit his prime gig as a variant cover artist for Wonder Woman because DC didn’t think we should see Diana’s panties. Actually, according to Frank, it was all evil writer Greg Rucka’s fault
As Cho told Bleeding Cool:
All the problem lies with Greg Rucka.EVERYONE loves my Wonder Woman covers and wants me to stay. Greg Rucka is the ONLY one who has any problem with covers. Greg Rucka has been trying to alter and censor my artwork since day one.Greg Rucka thought my Wonder Woman #3 cover was vulgar and showed too much skin, and has been spearheading censorship, which is baffling since my Wonder Woman image is on model and shows the same amount of skin as the interior art, and it’s a VARIANT COVER and he should have no editorial control over it. (But he does. WTF?!!!)I tried to play nice, not rock the boat and do my best on the covers, but Greg’s weird political agenda against me and my art has made that job impossible. Wonder Woman was the ONLY reason I came over to DC Comics.To DC’s credit, especially [Art Director] Mark Chiarello, they have been very accommodating. But they are caught between a rock and a hard place.I just wanted to be left alone and do my Wonder Woman variant covers in peace. But Greg Rucka is in a hostile power trip and causing unnecessary friction over variant covers.
Rucka is not publicly commenting on these allegations, because that’s not what professionals do.
For the record: This is the original cover Cho submitted to DC for Wonder Woman #3.
And this is how DC decide to alter it to meet standards.
You can see that the line DC drew in the sand was the panty line. It would have been a quick fix to redraw a small section so Wonder Woman’s unmentionables were not visible, but Cho believes it is his God-given right to draw Diana’s underwear and DC’s sworn duty to publish said underwear for the masses. So the cover he is finishing now, Wonder Woman #6, will be his last.
Cho used to be famous as the creator of Liberty Meadows and an in demand artist, but more recently he is famous for championing the rather tasteless Mino Minera Spider-Woman cover and drawing various superheroines in the same sexually dubious position (and others) with the caption “Outrage!” for fans at conventions.
Cho has delighted in picking fights with “Social Justice Warriors” on the Internet and at conventions for the past few years. But it looks like this time he got his panties all in a twist over a fight he can’t win.
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