A Sense of Doubt blog post #1953 - Men Have to do Better - More unpacking of the thing in comics - sexual misconduct - abuse of power
Wow, what a week.
The news about Warren Ellis' history of sexual coercion broke last week. I didn't find out for two days until he issued an apology via his newsletter, and I posted about it the very next day:
A Sense of Doubt blog post #1949 - Warren Ellis accused of sexual coercion
Since then, I have been trying to process my feelings about this revelation and the fallout. I am well aware that MY feelings are really not all that important, and I am just trying to understand them for myself so I can be a better human and so that I can deal with my grief over the loss of someone so significant to my life.
That said, what I am going through is only a microcosm of what others are going through, which is much more serious.
For the women involved, who are telling what happened to them, I support them, I believe them, and I want them to be able to find a way to share with another and to achieve some sense of healing, balance, and recovery.
Since the initial reports of a half dozen or so women speaking out, several have created a Discord server for discussion and community, and last I heard there were over 50 women taking part in that discussion.
Compared to those women who are courageous enough to speak out and to start a process that may result in a better comic book industry free of this kind of sexual misconduct that has been so pervasive in the good old boys network of comics among other industries. If the only good that comes of this situation is a culture shift in the comic book industry, then we will all be better for it, especially if many men who have perpetuated this system can come to real and honest terms with their culpability of that system and take steps to be better humans.
If the males in the comic book industry can admit their role in the abuse of power that has always been unacceptable and now people are ready to try to if not put a stop to it at least raise awareness so things are ameliorated going forward, if these males can apologize publicly and pledge to do better then their defenders, rabid fans spewing hate and toxic culture, may be able to also evolve and acknowledge their own responsibility for why it has taken this issue so long to be exposed and openly discussed.
These brave women are the real story here, and I do not want anything I write to detract from that single truth.
Close friends of these women and of Warren Ellis also have complicated and intense feelings to resolve, as shown clearly in these two IGTV videos from long time friend and former Warren Ellis Forum participant Kelly Sue DeConnick clearly demonstrates.
And then there's Warren Ellis himself and the other men who have been named, though for now I am leaving those out of my unpacking of thoughts and feelings. Even though Warren has abused his role, abused trust, sowed dishonesty, and coerced women unethically for years and years, and though he has now been outed for his actions and depredations, I still care about him very much, and so I am worried about him.
Many people do not care about Warren's place in this brouhaha. They want him canceled. Some are burning or tossing out his books. Others have cut all ties with him. Many have just cried out on the public Internet: "fuck Warren Ellis."
And yet, I cannot get behind any of those ideas. And I am aware that I am wading into murky territory because right not any sympathy let alone empathy for Warren Ellis is not only an unpopular opinion with many people on the Internet (not that I care much about such single-minded and blind intolerance) but also makes it seem as if I am siding with him against the women, de-valuing the women's experiences, or finding a way to passively deny the truth of what happened to them.
ASIDE: I am being careful not to use the word "stories" for the accounts by these women of their experiences with Warren and other men. I feel like the word story carries that connotation of fiction, and I want to avoid even the slightest implication that I do not believe these women. Because I do believe them. I believe all of them.
I worry about Warren, and I hope he is working through his own truth, coming to terms with what he has done, and will come out of this experience better and stronger. I hope he has friends who have not abandoned him, and who are giving him good counsel and support. The more reasonable voices out in the world, speaking out about this situation, are showing some concern for how this thing which is becoming a public spectacle, at least within the comics world, affects Warren as well. Ganzeer, whose newsletter I also follow, wrote as much in terms of how friendship works.
I am not a fan of cancel culture, though I can understand the impulse in cases like these. I certainly do not side with those self-righteously angry Internet posters who are calling for Warren's head on a platter and completely ending his career. I will save my full thoughts on this issue for tomorrow, as I want to focus completely on cancel culture in the next post. I will say that reason and some compassion must prevail in this situation. Even the women involved are not the best arbiters for this situation, as that,s much like allowing the victims in a criminal case decide the fate of the criminal. I am worried about that previous sentence because I have also been careful not to refer to the women speaking out as "victims." That word has such connotative power and implication, and I want to avoid those associations.
But the question of consequences and what is enough in this case will be the main focus of tomorrow's post.
And so, lastly, there's people like me. I am a fan of Warren. I do not know him personally but because of his newsletter, because of his various Internet presences, I feel like I do him more than other authors of whom I am a fan. Regardless of my level of connection and knowledge of Warren Ellis, he has been a fixture in my life for years. Outside of reading his comic book work and many other writings, outside of watching Castlevania and other things, acknowledging that there are others with greater history as I was not a member of the Warren Ellis Forum (WEF), I was an avid reader of FreakAngels, of warrenellis.com, and then Morning Computer, and then Warren Ellis LTD, and then various WEEKLY newsletters, the last of which was Orbital Operations.
With more weeks on than off, Warren Ellis broadcast a letter to all his fans every week on Sundays, and no matter how busy I was, how much email back log I had, how many distractions I juggled, I would almost always read that newsletter in bed before sleep when I do one-three hours of reading every night. This may not seem like a big deal, but to me, it was. I learned many things from Warren Ellis. He and I have very similar tastes in music, and in fact, our only correspondence, just a couple of emails, was about ambient podcasts and music. But that newsletter and all his other contact brought me great joy and had a huge impact on my life. Before this incident added posts to the category every day, my Warren Ellis category had 88 posts, which for this blog is a fairly significant number outside of my big subject areas and frequent posts. I am feeling the loss of that connection and the richness with which he infused my life very much. And the thought of him being "canceled" so that I cannot rejoin some new version of his broadcast when he is ready and when he feels he has something of value to share with the world pains me very deeply.
And yet, what I feel and what I am going through, even though it gave me problems sleeping for a couple of nights, the first in particular, is nothing compared to all those I mentioned prior: the women speaking out, his friends, and Warren himself.
And so, here's some content from what's been happening on the Interwebs.
First up, are the videos made by Kelly Sue DeConnick. I applaud them and I applaud her. One of the things she said that has stuck with me and that I am giving much thought (and may explore in more depth another time) is the reactions of many people in regards to her "responsibility" in responding.
It seems a really unfair and actually absurd position to take to expect industry professionals and/or Warren's friend to be able to not only process very complicated feelings about thus issue but also find the time in busy work and life schedules to respond with the speed that people on the Internet seem to expect people to respond. Get a life, people! UNPLUG!
I may write more on this issue tomorrow as well because it may relate to cancel culture. This idea of living one's life publicly, which is how DeConnick described it, and moreover being RESPONSIBLE for living life publicly on the Internet is very weird though not all that new idea.
Following DeConnick's videos is the statement by Ganzeer in his newsletter, stating his claim on how friendship works, and I agree. I also wrote Ganzeer with my support.
I follow this post with a ton of Twitter that I did not sort. There are posts from the women have and are speaking out, there's post with which I agree, posts with which I do not agree, and posts that I find very sad.
At the end, two longer reactions, one by Cat Vincent, who I had never heard of, and the other by (don't laugh) for real, DR. NERD LOVE, (whose real name is Harris O'Malley and is in Austin, TX), more on him tomorrow, too.
O'Malley's article on the Warren Ellis situation is erudite, insightful, reasonable, and compassionate. I have read it a couple of times. More about it tomorrow, but if you are following this situation, and have not read it, please read.
And so, time to dive into all the content.
Thanks for tuning in and reading. Leave me a comment.
https://ganzeer.today/im-not-going-to-regurgitate-whats-already-been-said-because-that-just-isnt
I’m not going to regurgitate what’s already been said, because that just isn’t my style. If you know me at all, you know I prefer to instead fill noticeable vacuums, and there is indeed a vacuum I’m noticing in the dominant narratives that formulate the current Twitterstorm in regards to the subject at hand.
But before I get into it: Believe women. That much goes without saying and shouldn’t even be up for debate.
In reading what Katie, Meredith, Jhayne, Zoetica, Theremina and others have posted, it is quite clear to me that what they would really like more than anything is to make sure other women never have to deal with what they've dealt with (and I sincerely hope I’m not putting words in anyone else’s mouth 🙏). To do that, what must be fostered are certain principals. Any decision being made on the basis of “career” is not principled, but is instead championed by financial gain as the prime motive which is an inherently corrupt motive.
What I’m seeing from Warren’s friends, peers, and alumni right now doesn’t strike me as principled as much as it is calculated. They are either:
a) Very quickly disassociating themselves from him.
b) Privately siding against the women in question, while publicly? Dead silence.
Neither is sincere, because the true motivation behind both is a preservation of career. And “career” was a big part of the problem to begin with.
Allow me to explain.
When we talk about career, what we're really talking about is one's professional and social standing within a particular field. Warren's prominent professional and social standing within his field is largely what allowed him to connect with any of the women in question. It is that very prominence that allowed him to—over time—cross certain boundaries. If someone of similar prominence was to decide never to cross such boundaries solely for fear of what it might do to their career later down the line... that would still not be okay because the decision wouldn't stem from a genuine principal. If close friends and peers of Warren are now deciding to disassociate themselves from him primarily for the benefit of their professional and social standing within their fields... still not okay.
What needs to happen is for people to disregard such obsessions with “career” and instead think of the human being when dealing with others. No more thinking of people in terms of “fans”, “audience”, “groupies”, “mentors”, “leaders”, “heroes”, “opportunities”, or any of that nonsense. Human beings, period.
Of course, Warren has been a kind of mentor figure to an entire generation of people scattered around the world (regardless of him stressing that he is “not a role model”.) And his work has been creative fuel to thousands of individuals across numerous fields everywhere. With that in mind, it is understandable why so many are aghast by Warren's declaration: “I have never considered myself famous or powerful”.
However, based solely on my personal interactions with him, I can tell you that I've never met a more humble or self-deprecating person in my life. He is definitely nowhere nearly aware of his cultural prominence to the extent that... say, a Gaiman or Moore is. Furthermore, Warren definitely has an amazing eye for talent, and—upon spotting it—treating the talented individual as a peer regardless of said person's professional accomplishments or lack thereof.
Does that absolve him of the actions in question?
No, of course not! Because even if you weren't famous, those bad actions are still bad actions.
Funny, Bruce Sterling always said Ellis would “go down with arrows in his back”. But I doubt he anticipated arrows of this kind.
Very few people did (despite some of the now revisionist “oh my, it was obvious all along” reactions), which is partially why this whole thing is a bit of a blow to the gut. If the same sort of thing had come out about, I dunno, a Chuck Palahniuk for instance, I doubt anyone would feel betrayed. It's not so much because of Warren's exceptional brilliance or creativity, but I think it's because much of his work provided a kind of moral compass to the thousands of fringe people who connected with it. The thousands of people who metaphorically make up the “Children of Ellis” tribe.
The Children of Ellis, who by the way, Katie, Jhayne, and Zoetica all fall squarely under.
Hence, the rather icky nature of this situation.
But perhaps the lessons to learn from Ellis lie not only in his work, but also in his mistakes: no matter how famous/established/loved you think you might be, never ever ever under any circumstance serially target the hot/young/goth constituency of your fanbase for sexual interaction, be it virtual or otherwise ffs.
The thing about Warren though, is that despite the old-cranky-bastard persona he's cultivated online, he is in actuality a person of immense kindness and selfless generosity. Truly. Beyond belief. This is something many of the women directly hurt by him would also agree to be true). I'm fully confident that he is capable of changing his ways and doing the right thing.
But I doubt he can do any of it if his friends turn their backs on him.
That is not how friendship works. Not one bit.
Hey there.— mer (@Theremina) June 16, 2020
I'm still not back. My heart's racing while I write this.
But I need to quickly say something about my dear friend @KatieWest.
She is one of the most ethical and compassionate people I know, and everything she is saying about Warren Ellis today is spot-on.
For the last year Warren Ellis has helped me in ways I couldn't have imagined. Today, with sincere thanks to every woman who came forward, I've cut ties with him.— Hayden Sherman (@Cleanlined) June 16, 2020
If you're hurting people, I'm not with you.
at this point, warren ellis has a generational responsibility to the industry to come clean about his behavior because there is a very clear throughline from him to his male collaborators and proteges who copied and perpetuated those same sets of behaviors.— 🍑🔌véronique emma houxbois🔌🍑 (@EmmaHouxbois) June 16, 2020
Hey Comics family, considering what's been happening today, how about a master thread of names and links to articles? Anybody wanna help me out? Post names and/or article links in response to this tweet. Fuck silence. I'll start: https://t.co/FOAiV33tgk— Tess Fowler (currently battling breast cancer💪😎) (@TessFowler) June 16, 2020
Eddie Berganza— Tess Fowler (currently battling breast cancer💪😎) (@TessFowler) June 16, 2020
Eric M. Esquivel
Brian Wood
Scott Lobdell
Scott Allie
Warren Ellis
Cameron Stewart
Who am I missing?
Let's FINALLY make this a consistent conversation. So the up and comers are informed and we get rid of the stigma.
The most fucked-up thing about Warren Ellis, if we’re being honest, is how open of a secret he was? Like it was almost a joke. “Oh, Warren Ellis, he likes the young goth ladies”. And like fucking tools we all laughed, never thinking about the implications of this ‘quirky’ rep.— Maxy Bee (@MaxyTheBee) June 16, 2020
Warren Ellis says “I have never considered myself famous or powerful.” WARREN ELLIS. Maybe not on the stage of world politics, but in comics? Come on. While privilege is often blind to itself, I’m calling bullshit. He knows his influence and reach.— Jennifer de Guzman Strikes Again (@Jennifer_deG) June 19, 2020
warren ellis directly or indirectly made a lot of our careers— prank sinatra, baby! (@treswritesstuff) June 16, 2020
every single one of us owes it to the women he hurt to interrogate that and, more importantly, to make sure he and anyone else who looks to do what he did doesn’t have a place here
My opinion is peanuts, I'm not anybody in particular, but I'm saying this anyway:— Damo/Meadow (@OddsonDamian) June 16, 2020
Does it suck to hear that Warren Ellis has a history of predatory behaviour directed at young women?
Absolutely
But I'm pretty sure it's worse for the victims of his behaviour
People are shocked about Warren Ellis being accused of inappropriate relationships with young women, but, phew, I always got weird vibes from him. I didn’t want to say anything because look! he was giving opportunities to young female artists! But....— Jennifer de Guzman Strikes Again (@Jennifer_deG) June 16, 2020
Warren Ellis is responsible for some of the stories that are closest to my heart.— Collin “Powers” Kelly (@cpkelly) June 17, 2020
But my heart - and our industry - can’t have a place for sexually and emotionally abusive predators.
We must name them. We must cut them out.
It’s what Spider would do.
Re: Coming forward with our reports of sexual misconduct of @warrenellis.— Jhayne Holmes (@Foxtongue) June 16, 2020
This is all terribly hard, but it's easier when we're together. Let's all connect. I'm putting together a chat server for us and I've been building an anonymous archive of our stories. Please get in touch.
For those asking questions about the Warren Ellis stuff, I can tell you that I was told this stuff yeeears ago. The person in question was not ready to speak more openly. But its been corroborated by others in the years since, outside of the current convo.— Tess Fowler (currently battling breast cancer💪😎) (@TessFowler) June 16, 2020
I stand in solidarity with @katiewest . My #MeToo story of @warrenellis is backed up with an archive of hundreds of emails and photos that spans years. We were prey yet didn't know it, because we were so, so young. pic.twitter.com/Xhf0AWUcm3— Jhayne Holmes (@Foxtongue) June 16, 2020
While we are on the topic of Cameron Stewart and Warren Ellis, can we address another DC talent with a history of sexually predatory behavior but has yet to be addressed even though there's been a public record of the harassment? Scott Lobdell https://t.co/sDGwmlpIdZ— Simi/سيمي (@ANerdWonder) June 17, 2020
I'm currently listening to 35+ women tell me of their experiences with Warren Ellis. And that number keeps growing. If you have something you want to talk about you can reach out to me or Jhayne @Foxtongue— Katie West (@katiewest) June 17, 2020
Cw// grooming, manipulation, sexual abuse— Sarah 🔥 (@ScaredBisexual) June 16, 2020
I appreciate that we are having the discussion of abuse of power in the comic industry. It is good that we are calling out Cameron Stewart, Warren Ellis, and Brian Wood. It is important to remember that this isn’t a few bad apples
I'm about as big a Warren Ellis fan as you can be, I read all his work, his newsletters, and have a tattoo on my body from a work of his— Jesse 'Binlord' Raen (@CreativeBinlord) June 16, 2020
I still believe the people who say he's assaulted, or taken advantage of them using his status as an industry veteran. You should too
warren ellis built a whole community that went on to effectively define successful comics for 20 years and if there is rot in him it is very likely not limited to him https://t.co/KyxemIA5X0— Joshua Rivera (@jmrivera02) June 16, 2020
The Warren Ellis news is one of those things that I have worried about sometimes in the back of my mind. When you read a lot of his comics, it seems like this guy maybe doesn't have super healthy positioning re: young women.— Churchill Box for Wendig (@illexical) June 16, 2020
Warren Ellis' work meant a lot to me once but also, it's impossible to have been around for the WEF and the whole "Filthy Assistant" shtick and not instantly believe everything women are saying about him today https://t.co/5i6Ltr5ftG— Nich Maragos (@heartwoodfan) June 16, 2020
And as a direct aside so I'm sidestepping the point: I'm fucking gutted to hear this behavior was perpetuated by Warren Ellis, whose character Spider Jerusalem ingrained in me a deep and righteous anger against men who use power to perpetuate their pleasure.— 𝙅𝘼𝘾𝙆𝙎𝙊𝙉 𝙇𝘼𝙉𝙕𝙄𝙉𝙂 (@JacksonLanzing) June 16, 2020
You are not alone. I have years of emails from Warren Ellis leading me to think we were friends, then leading into sex chat. It was like a clang in my head when I joyously mentioned talking to other creators and he dropped me. Like hot garbage.— Denver Primrose (@essbizarress) June 16, 2020
Someone's capacity for art and creativity matters little compared to the harm they inflict on others.— PhatCat (@fiddlersgreen92) June 16, 2020
If Warren Ellis never lifts a finger to make amends or even directly acknowledge what he's done to others, then so be it. Fuck him. Fuck him and his comics.
Someone's capacity for art and creativity matters little compared to the harm they inflict on others.— PhatCat (@fiddlersgreen92) June 16, 2020
If Warren Ellis never lifts a finger to make amends or even directly acknowledge what he's done to others, then so be it. Fuck him. Fuck him and his comics.
The "I've always disliked Warren Ellis" reaching has begun. He was practically enshrined as the Patron Saint of Breaking Into Comics, which should tell us how hard the industry listened to the wrong people and how little it listened to anyone else.— Thomas Maluck (@LiberryTom) June 16, 2020
I have long been a fan of Warren Ellis, and my career has benefited from his attention in the past. All the more reason for me to signal boost this thread. https://t.co/dPdV1S8QaE— Sean Kelley McKeever (@seankmckeever) June 16, 2020
This one hurt. Warren Ellis has been big supporter of my work, giving me a platform, recommending me to my film manager. He's been incredibly generous to other people I know. I believe my friend Katie, I believe Mer, and all the women I don't know who say he was predatory.— Lauren Beukes (@laurenbeukes) June 18, 2020
Warren Ellis wasn't just my favorite writer. He was my idol. I worshipped him. I've looked up to him since I was...the same age as the girls he harassed. I've never wanted so badly not to believe something. But I do believe it.— Grumblefloof (@Grumblefloof) June 16, 2020
i personally know what it's like to find our a creator you admire (and are friendly with) is revealed to have done terrible things— screamlord (@inthewakeofdawn) June 16, 2020
it sucks, suddenly you lose a connection to art that shaped you. you know what sucks more?
what the people they hurt had to suffer with.
Warm thanks to everyone who's reached out to offer support and encouragement. The past 48 hours have been... Dark. There are over 50 of us sharing our experiences with Warren Ellis now. Learning the degree of what's been done to some of the others is nothing short of harrowing.— Zoetica Ebb (@zoetica) June 19, 2020
Another thing about Warren Ellis: this is not about him. The #MeToo movement is, among other feats, shining the light of accountability at the murky spaces between the cut-and-dry criminal cases, where predators once felt safe. This is a conversation about the scope of consent.— Zoetica Ebb (@zoetica) June 18, 2020
If there's one person who can go "Hey, what Warren Ellis did sucks, I feel terrible I just courted him for a project, I sure won't be calling on him again" who's too big to get a "YOU VIOLATED THE CIRCLE OF TRUST, YOU'LL NEVER WORK IN THIS TOWN AGAIN" email, it's Scott Snyder.— David Mann (@DavidMann95) June 16, 2020
For a decade if I was held at gunpoint and forced to pick a favorite comics creator it would be Warren Ellis. I've looked forward to his newsletter for years. But I believe the women speaking up about his grooming and harassment today. I'm sad I didn't know till now.— Wheeler (@WheeleyMe) June 16, 2020
— zack snyder stan account (@bradyonetta) June 17, 2020
Trash people use this argument. Warren Ellis is not accused of child grooming, he is a serial manipulator of young women. The group of his victims now totals 70+. In to the sea with anyone who supports him pic.twitter.com/YW1Ri15qsT— Nicest Girl Evr (@Nicest_Girl_Evr) June 21, 2020
I would like to think that the silence from these Warren Ellis Forum alumni is shocking, but I guess it explains how what he did was kept quiet. This is how those in power keep the crimes of their friends quiet.https://t.co/GtvWgbMfo8— Christopher Helton (@dorkland) June 18, 2020
Two days ago, women started talking publicly about the predatory & abusive behaviour of comic-book author & screenwriter Warren Ellis— Jay Owens (@hautepop) June 18, 2020
Warren is not just a comics guy but a fellow traveller in our worlds of futures, tech & design. We must acknowledge this.https://t.co/tQXKA2caYw
It doesn't do anyone any good for me to be oblique about this: Katie West has come forward about older men in comics grooming and trying to sleep with younger women and fans.— Dan Hon (@hondanhon) June 16, 2020
Katie names Cameron Stewart, Brian Woods and Warren Ellis, with personal experience of Woods and Ellis.
The truly odious aspect of the Warren Ellis "apology" are the bits about not manipulating anyone. He's engaged in an escalating, decades-long pattern of grooming and 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙘𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 manipulating (often vulnerable) women toward dependence and complete submission. https://t.co/yEH1iaB62J— Zoetica Ebb (@zoetica) June 19, 2020
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Warm thanks to everyone who's reached out to offer support and encouragement. The past 48 hours have been... Dark. There are over 50 of us sharing our experiences with Warren Ellis now. Learning the degree of what's been done to some of the others is nothing short of harrowing.— Zoetica Ebb (@zoetica) June 19, 2020
Boosting this. For those who need us, we've got you. Get in touch. https://t.co/IB4cDeeTgG— Katie West (@katiewest) June 19, 2020
Some of you are here because of Warren. Because of this, and the fact that I appear in the documentary about him, I'm implored to confirm that, yes, it's all true. And yes, it happened to me, too. And yes, he has done a lot of good, but the systems? They have to burn.— Zoetica Ebb (@zoetica) June 18, 2020
Sexual coersion under the guise of mentorship is wrong in the same way that racism is wrong. Many acts of racism are technically-legal, seemingly innocuous microagressions, but in aggregate they're heinous, and must be identified and stopped.— Zoetica Ebb (@zoetica) June 18, 2020
Yesterday I posted about men abusing their power in the comics industry to groom, emotionally manipulate, have sex with, or serially Bluebeard young women. My intention was to protect young women from being harmed by these types of men in the future.— Katie West (@katiewest) June 17, 2020
Blog post on the #WarrenEllis mess: https://t.co/mawAZ7tGS9
— Cat Vincent (living in Iso) (@catvincent) June 20, 2020
On Warren Ellis
I have been a reader of the work of writer Warren Ellis for a long time. His work has been instrumental to a lot of my thinking about magic and the future. Online groups he formed led directly to my professional career and to many lasting friendships. He was personally kind to me online a couple of times. I’ve quoted him extensively over the years, including in the last talk I gave and posted here.
It has become clear in the last week that Ellis has been using his power and privilege to manipulate younger women into providing sexual favours. From dozens of women. For decades.
I have heard many of their stories. I believe them all. And much of his work, and public conduct, has hinted at this. His recent attempt at an apology is an insufficient piece of corporate-speak obfuscation which covers his arse career-wise and does nothing whatsoever for the women he took advantage of.
The facts remain. He was a sexual predator, of a type especially prone to recidivism – they rarely stop, but only pause then relapse. He had a type, practiced prey selection, honed his technique and pressured the women not only to be sexual with him, but to not discuss it with others. Then he dropped them from his life if they tried to expand out of his immediate control, often with severe implications for their careers; certainly, on their lives.
Most (I am told, in confidence, not all) of what he did may have been legal, but that is not the point.
It was dishonourable. Reprehensible.
It replaced a duty of care to vulnerable young professionals and fans in his field with the attitude of a greedy child in a sweetshop.
He chose to do this. He knew better, and did it anyway.
Over and over again. Just because he could.
And now, everyone knows this. Reactions have… differed.
I am leaving my references to his work on the blog, but I have to note the context in which his words should now be regarded. And to say this…
Men need to do better.
Yes, all men.
Even if you’ve never dreamed of harming or exploiting a woman or anyone, the male-dominated cultures which permit and even exalt such behaviours have to be challenged, opposed, destroyed.
And it is men who should, need to, do the work here.
On Finding Out Your Heroes are Monsters (Or: Detoxifying Comic Culture): Warren Ellis is someone who could be credibly referred to as a genius. Transmetropolitan — a futuristic riff on Hunter S. Thompson — has never felt more relevant than in the Trump… https://t.co/QH11FJ3uMf pic.twitter.com/g1t06VHdCM— Dr. NerdLove (@DrNerdLove) June 18, 2020
On Finding Out Your Heroes are Monsters (Or: Detoxifying A Culture)
Warren Ellis is someone who could be credibly referred to as a genius. Transmetropolitan — a futuristic riff on Hunter S. Thompson — has never felt more relevant than in the era of Trump and the nationwide Black Lives Matters protests. The Marvel cinematic universe exists in no small part because of his Iron Man comic Extremis. His books have accurately predicted the rise and adoption of smartphones, micro-drones, facial recognition software and how the police would turn consumer security cameras into a de-facto surveillance network.
He also created the Warren Ellis Forum — an online community that would become a haven for creators, intellectuals and artists. From 1998 to 2002, The Warren Ellis Forum was, in its way, the CBGBs of comics; established comic book professionals, up-and-coming amateurs, and fans who simply wanted to be in the room where it happened all mixed and mingled freely. The WEF became a talent incubator, churning out creators who would go on to transform not just comics but television, film and more. Some of the creators that had been part of the WEF included G. Willow Wilson, Ed Brubaker, Brian Wood, Matt Fraction, Kelly Sue DeConnick, Kieron Gillen, Chip Zdarsky, Sam Humphries, Andy Khouri, Justin Jordan, Alex de Campi, Jeremy Love, Carla Speed McNeil, Colleen Doran, Lea Hernandez, Gail Simone, Antony Johnston and…er… me.
DeConnick and Jamie McKelvie transformed Captain Marvel into the version we see in movies. Atomic Blonde was adapted from Johnston’s book The Coldest City. WEF alumni went on to become editors at Oni, Image, Dark Horse, Marvel and DC, show-runners at the CW network, famous podcasters and more.
As it says on the WEF’s epitaph: “Couples met and even got married here, people found homes and aid here, companies were started and saved here. It was good.”
It is no exaggeration to say that Warren Ellis single-handedly changed the face of pop culture.
Warren Ellis is also accused of manipulating and sexually coercing many young women.
Writer and editor Katie West opened the dam with a thread on Twitter (since deleted) talking about her relationship with Ellis. Musician Meredith Yayanos, photographer Jayne Holmes and Denver Primrose also came forward with their own stories about Ellis, including screenshots of Twitter DMs from him. As of this writing, over 35 people have come forward to talk about their experiences with Ellis.
I believe them. I know that Ellis was capable of this because I was there. I saw it happen. And I did nothing about it.
Wrestling With Stalin
The Warren Ellis Forum was a magical place, for those who took part in it. It was a rollicking, chaotic scene; at its height, there were over 2500 members, writing thousands of posts daily. The atmosphere of the forum was an absurd mix of intellectual salon, underground punk club and frat house. At any one time, you could have a high-minded discussion about philosophy in one thread, how to read and negotiate a publishing contract in another, wonder at cutting edge physics in a third, and argue about cult movies in yet another thread. Artists and writers would find each other and collaborate on projects, zines were proposed, published and died, conventions were organized, drink-ups were coordinated. Relationships started and ended there; so did bitter rivalries, both personal and professional.
And at the center of it all was Warren Ellis — alternately “Uncle Warren” or “Stalin”, a moniker he adopted in tribute to his iron-handed moderation philosophy.
Ellis deliberately cultivated a larger-than-life persona, a mix of intellectualism and punk “IDGAF” ethos. He was famous for his wit and his wordplay as well as his varied interests. He was as much an explorer of art — his book Available Light featured avant garde photography — and science as pop culture. He was a libertine and futurist, a book in one hand and a scotch in another, who could be cutting or supportive — often within the same thread — and he deliberately crafted a space where much of the usual Internet fuckery was not allowed. Trolls weren’t given oxygen; anyone who caused trouble was kicked out, without ceremony or second chances. His moderation team — his Filthy Assistants, a reference to Spider Jerusalem’s aides-de-camp in Transmetropolitan — were all women, and helped enforce a rule of “no dickheads in the clubhouse” that made the WEF a welcome refuge from the greater Internet.
And indeed, he made a point of making sure that women were welcome. At the time, the WEF was a place where women could participate freely and openly, without dealing with the usual abuse that came from being a woman with opinions on the Internet. Men who were too overtly thirsty over a female poster would get shut down in short order, often with a side of stinging barbed words.
But this didn’t mean that the WEF was a paradise. The frat house atmosphere was dominant; we were all would-be rock stars, with all that entailed. Rock out with your cock out, drink like a fish, smoke like a chimney and fail to give a fuck because regrets were for other people. The culture trended towards the ironic and iconoclastic. Sacred cows made the best hamburger after all, and the darker the humor, the better. People were expected to be in on the joke or at least not object. One common response to people being stupid or killjoys was to post a picture of Steve McQueen slapping Ali McGraw in The Getaway.
People who pointed out that this photo was, oh, a little fucked up would be shouted down. It was all in good fun. It was all ironic, laddish games; it didn’t mean anything and nobody was really bothered by it. That same sense of irony, that “hey, it’s all fun and games here, nobody’s really bothered” applied to equally ironic sexism, homophobic jokes and more. Everything and everyone was fair game, fuck your idols, destroy your heroes.
And this same attitude applied as much to Ellis as it did to everyone else. Part of Ellis’ persona was Uncle Warren, the dirty old man; “Hello sinners, sit in my lap and tell Daddy you’re sorry.” It was notable how often Ellis would start a thread for people to post photos; as others noted, he would ignore most of the men, make a comment or two on the photos of some of the more prominent male posters, and then have long discussions with women who posted theirs. At the time, we — the men at least — thought of it as all rakish humor, part of the big-swinging dick energy of the culture. Women in particular were encouraged to play along; the pressure to be One of the Cool Ones was incredibly high.
Which, in turn, made it so damn easy to ignore or dismiss what we saw.
It was an open secret just how little of “Uncle Warren’s” lecherous act was actually an act. The running gag at the time was that Ellis had two obsessions: futurephones and alt-model cam-girls… and many of the women in the WEF fit the bill. Warren was also known for not being terribly concerned with whether or not some of the women he was flirting with — or in some cases, hooking up with or having affairs with — had partners. In one instance, a jilted boyfriend found and posted a transcript of a cybersex session between his girlfriend and Ellis. While the discussion was shut down, many had read it already, and mentions of its contents became a source of jokes; who would’ve thought Stalin’s sex chats were so banal?
But that same sense of irony and iconoclasm, the same willingness to roll our eyes at Ellis’ horndog behavior made it so easy to overlook just how fucked up some of this was. The weird flirting-yet-not with young women, the inappropriate behavior with so many, the culture of pushing back against the “funwreckers” (mostly, but not exclusively, women) who said “hey, this shit isn’t cool”… we took that in stride as being part of the Cool Club.
We were too busy being rock stars and the future kings and queens of comics. And besides… look at how many women Warren was introducing to the industry. That had to mean everything was on the up and up, right?
It wasn’t. And most of us, frankly, weren’t willing to listen to the people trying to tell us otherwise.
And to make things more confusing, it’s unquestionable that Ellis made profound positive changes, both to pop culture and to people. The fact that he also has left a trail of so many people who feel used or coerced and manipulated by him makes it all the more confusing and more difficult to know how to feel.
But, to quote Katie West:
Ellis is a symptom, not the disease. We need to talk about the culture that leads up to this and makes it possible.
Culture Wars (Or: All Those Blurred Lines)
One of the reasons why it was so easy to go with the flow and overlook the warning signs or pass off glaringly bad behavior was — and is — the culture of networking in the entertainment industry in general and the comics industry in particular. The Warren Ellis Forum was, in many ways, a microcosm of the comic industry as a whole. Success here meant success in the comic industry… provided that you were a fit for the culture. It was understood that membership in the WEF was always under consideration; if you weren’t funny enough, smart enough, creative enough for Uncle Warren, you were out. And for a forum that prided itself on its Yappy Bastards… if you weren’t willing to shut up about some things, you would be shown the door.
As I said: Ellis took pride in the “Stalin” nickname and made it clear that the rules were what he decided they were. If he or the mods decided that you were out, you were out. Pushing back got you kicked out of the forum. And while this can seem like such a small thing — a forum run by a comic writer in the 90s and early 00’s — being part of the WEF had real-world benefits.
Comics, after all, was — and still is — a notoriously difficult industry to get into. The running joke was that every time someone broke into the industry, everyone would immediately rush to plug the hole you used to get in. And — like many of the jokes and nods that permeated the WEF — there was an element of “joking but not really” to it. As author G. Willow Wilson said:
It could be hard to look at some of the people who had Ellis’ favor and not be envious. While there is absolutely no question that they were incredibly talented and deserve every ounce of success that they’ve received, there’s also no question at just how much having a heavyweight like Ellis on your side would give you a leg up. Comics has always been about who you know as much as what you can do; this made networking a vitally important skill. Knowing the right people could open doors for you… if they liked you. And part of being liked meant fitting into the culture. And the culture of the comic industry can be difficult under the best of circumstances and completely toxic at worst.
And there is no place where the culture was more distilled into its purest form than at conventions.
Conventions in general are odd beasts, liminal spaces where the traditional rules seem to go out the window. They are at the same time professional development and parties; a place where deals are negotiated, networks are developed… and mistakes are made. They are the time when you are surrounded by your industry peers… many of whom are ready to cut loose at the first available opportunity. This is true of conventions and conferences for any industry you can think of. Academic conferences, for example, seem as though they should be the most staid, buttoned up events in history. But once cocktail hour rolls around, they can transform into Hedonism II.
The same holds true for various geek conventions. Comic, anime, gaming and sci-fi cons exist as both professional events and vacations, where the line between professional networking and personal relationships blur to the point of being almost non-existent. And at every con is — inevitably — Bar Con. It’s at Bar Con — held at the hotel bar — that much of the business of the geek industry goes down. But Bar Con is, in many ways, part and parcel of the same “live fast, party hard” culture of the WEF and elsewhere; the drinking culture of conventions can’t be overstated. In fact, it’s one that people often feel compelled to be a part of; that need to fit into the culture in order to be accepted. As such, there’s an almost performative aspect to it, the urge to prove that you can party like the rock star you feel like being or to get completely goddamn hammered because fuck it, why not? Small wonder that so many of the worst stories in comics start at the con bar…
But in that same crowd, you have people who are looking for their way into the industry. Talented amateurs, up-and-comers, even people who never thought they might be good enough to go pro who are getting a chance to meet their heroes. In some cases they’re star struck. In others, they may have a crush — intellectual, creative or otherwise — on their favorite creators. And for many… that’s an incredibly heady, even intoxicating feeling. For many folks in the industry, cons are a time when they feel like rock stars… and meet their fans who treat them the same way.
And what’s a rock star without his groupies?
Meanwhile, for the up-and-comer, there’s that same pressure of “you need to fit in”. You want to be smart enough, creative enough, talented enough or funny enough to hang. You want to be accepted by people you hope to be your peers. But as Wilson observed: it’s easy for a man to make the right connections through basic networking practices. For a woman, the options can often be far more limited… and that makes them uniquely vulnerable to someone leveraging their position in the industry. Adding to the effect is the transition from online to in-person. The Internet has given us greater access to our heroes and to the pillars of fame; it’s easier than ever to connect with the people whose work you admire. Starting a conversation online and then having the possibility of meeting in person can add to that excitement and lead to people letting their guard down. And when your hero and (hopefully) future peer shows interest in you and your work… that mix of validation, meeting your idol and possibly even a little bit of infatuation makes it very easy to feel like a dream come true. And at a con, where the line between professional event and party blur, then professional ethics can also blur and many people will start to blur boundaries as well.
Part of what is so fucked about all of this is the general attitude of “well, this is just how it is”. The mix of the personal and professional becomes just part of the business.
And that attitude persists, even in the face of habitual offenders.
Why It’s So Hard To Change The Culture
One of the common reactions to the accusations against Ellis is often “…so?” After all, the majority of the people who he interacted with were of legal age. As of this writing, nobody has accused Ellis of sexual assault and frankly, I haven’t heard or seen anything to make me believe he has. What he did do was take starry-eyed young women under his wing, push the boundaries of a mentor/mentee relationship to the breaking point and — in many cases — drop people once someone new came along or his current target gave hints that she was forming connections with someone else.
By even the least charitable interpretation, no laws were broken. Legally speaking, he seems to be in the clear. Even West has said: this wasn’t them being abusive, it was a man abusing his power. But the fact that it was legal doesn’t mean that harm wasn’t done. It doesn’t mean that people weren’t taken advantage of, had their trust abused by someone they respected or — in many cases — idolized and who leveraged their trust against them. The fact that no laws were broken doesn’t remove the abuse of trust, nor does it mitigate the consequences of those action.
While people can — and do — have relationships with people where there is a power difference, whether in age, status, wealth, or position, there is a wide difference between a relationship between two individuals developing despite the difference in power and someone leveraging their power in order to charm someone into a relationship.
And yes, we can argue that these women had agency. They could have rejected Ellis (or Cameron Stewart or other predators within the industry)… and many have. But that doesn’t make those actions OK, ethically or morally, nor does it mean that they aren’t harmful. Their victims may have had agency, but they were also fans who were excited to meet someone famous, be mentored by them and made to feel special.
It’s understandable that they were willing to believe the best in someone that, up until now, they had a reason to believe was sincere. Motivated reasoning is a thing. And that same motivated reasoning is part of why it can be so hard for many of us — myself most certainly included — to miss what, in retrospect should have been glaring warning signs. With regard to the WEF in particular, it was a space that felt unique in the Internet at the time. We were the hot young things, we were sex-positive, pro-indie, pro-women and encouraging our friends to push the boundaries of what they thought were allowed. If it were occasionally (or frequently) sexist or dodgy… well, we were all friends who were in on the joke, yes? It’s hard to look at the man who made it all happen and see him as someone leveraging his presence and position on people who might otherwise not be up for a relationship with him. It’s all too easy to assume that everything is fine and if we had evidence that Ellis was a little too interested in some of the women in the group… well, it was a little pathetic but otherwise harmless. Rakish behavior at worst, innit?
And that same reasoning can be part of why it’s so easy for people to dismiss what he did — or Stewart, or others — as harmful. Nobody likes to think of their heroes as being villains. Nobody likes to think that the industry they love — one that they often hope to be part of — is so imbalanced that bad actors can prey on the young and hopeful. Easier to think that it’s a meritocracy that anyone can thrive in as long as they have the talent. Easier to dismiss the harm as being minor, the victims as being all too-willing and the consequences as negligible. Easier to see your friend biting and licking random people as clownish antics than the acts of someone who shouldn’t be allowed in a professional setting. Or, for that matter, better to just try to isolate a known predator by not allowing women to talk to him than to upset the order at the company… even if that effectively cuts women out of the running to work on the books under his purview.
It’s also worth noting just how hard it is to face up to past mistakes. When you discover things that, in retrospect, you should have known or realize that you dismissed someone’s warnings as “being a funwrecker” or not being that bad, you’re going to feel guilt. You’re going to feel shame. You’re going to ask why you didn’t step in and say something… even when speaking up may have gotten you kicked from the community you loved. It’s hard to face that shame. It’s painful to confront that guilt. Easier, then, to continue to dismiss things or to diminish them than to do the work of processing your part in it.
And frankly, it’s hard to talk about processing those feelings because… well, it can also feel performative. If I can be real for a moment: I hesitated to write this column in no small part because part of me feels like it is taking the attention away from the victims, performing regret with breast-beating and public proclamations of sorrow.
But if we want to shift the culture, we need to do more than out the predators and listen to the victims. We need to examine why it’s possible for the malefactors to operate so openly and why so many of us were blind and willing to be blind. And we need to do so in a way that we can understand why we did so in the past so that we can be sure not to make the same mistake in the future.
Where Do We Go From Here?
Normally when I write these columns, I like to have some sort of call to action. An exhortation to be better, something that can be done to start the process of making things better. But unfortunately, there aren’t any clear cut, simple answers here.
Is the answer to “cancel” Warren Ellis? Maybe; it’s an understandable impulse. But at the same time, it’s difficult to also throw out the good he’s done; the WEF was not just a force that advanced comics and pop culture to where we are today but a place that many of us loved and still love. It was a place where we made friendships that have lasted to this day, where careers were launched — including mine. It’s painful to look back and have the shadow of his behavior taint everything. Was THIS event or THAT behavior something innocent, or was it a clue that we should have seen? Was this person kicked from the group because they were a troublemaker and a creep, or were they calling attention to something that Ellis would’ve preferred remain unremarked on? Or, worse, were they a threat to Uncle Warren’s desire to bring some new young woman under his influence?
It’s also a question of whether we want to prioritize punishment or change, revenge or redemption. Making space for people to make amends, grow and change is important, and even some of those who’ve been the worst have shown growth and taken responsibility for their actions.
At the same time, we have to confront not just the culture that enables this behavior, but our complicity in it. Examining the drinking culture of Bar Con, the old-boys networking and how it excludes talents who aren’t comfortable (or welcome) in that atmosphere is equally vital. This isn’t to say that cons can’t be parties or that professionals can’t hang with their friends at the bar, but to take a long, hard look at not just the atmosphere that it creates but the behaviors that it condones and even encourages.
It’s also important to bring more women, people of color and LGBTQ people into positions that allow them to hire creators, greenlight projects and incubate talent, so that folks like Ellis, Stewart, et. al can’t use their power and position in the industry to coerce and mistreat the young and hopeful.
And we have to take a long and unflinching look at our own behaviors — the things that we’ve actively participated in and the things that we’ve looked away from. How often have we examined our own behavior and where we’ve gone wrong? How often have we prioritized in-group membership and comfort over confronting the behavior of others? How often we’ve dismissed other people’s complaints because they made us uncomfortable or were inconvenient to us? How often we’ve contributed to an atmosphere where people felt they couldn’t come to us with their concerns.
But we have to also acknowledge that none of this can happen quickly or cleanly. The Titanic can’t turn on a dime and reshaping an industry that is already beset with change and chaos is a daunting task under even the best of circumstances. Changing the culture is hard, a process that takes time and sustained effort, and there’re reactionaries who prefer the men’s locker room atmosphere. They prefer an industry that caters exclusively to them, their fantasies and their frequently shitty behavior.
However, the fact that it’s hard doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do it anyway. The fact that it takes time doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t start now. And the fact that changing an industry — and other industries that face the same problems and bad actors — is an almost Sisyphean task doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t grit our teeth and start rolling the rock up that hill.
If we’re going to start, we should start with ourselves. Look around. Examine the people in your life, in your communities. Are there warning signs that you’ve missed? Is there a “missing stair” in your community that has thus far been allowed to remain? The sooner we do the work within ourselves and our own communities, the sooner we change geek culture… and make it the place we’ve always pretended it was.
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