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A Sense of Doubt blog post #1363 - Stan Lee Has Died - RIP Stan Lee
So, Stan Lee died.He lived a long and illustrious life. At 95, he seemed to be going gangbusters, still, though we all knew that he would run out of steam eventually. I was kind of hoping he would make it over 100, but we cannot all have a fairy tale like the STNG depiction of 130-something year old Dr. Leonard McCoy.
Stan Lee was one my child hood heroes. Marvel comics shaped my ethics and morality at a young age. But this had as much to do with the amazing artists that defined comics and Marvel comics in particular, JACK KIRBY , as it did with Stan Lee.
Stan Lee was great, and he did so many great things for comics and for popular culture in general. His influence is undeniable, seminal, and so very important both to me personally and to us all.
But he also stood on the shoulders of giants without whom his work may not have had the impact it had.
Giants like JACK KIRBY (died in 1994).
Like Steve Ditko who died earlier this year (2018). And there were others, my favorite artists, like Gene Colan (died in 2011), Gil Kane (died in 2000), John Buscema (died in 2002), And those still with us like the great artist, John Romita Sr. and fellow writer, Stan Lee's Protege, Roy Thomas, who visited Stan Lee shortly before his death (see below) and learned that Stan Lee was "ready to leave this earth."
These Google profiles tell the tale well, and I am glad they copied nicely.
As the world mourns the passing of the comic giant Stan Lee, I think it's important to remember all the other Marvel giants who made Marvel so Mighty.
Also, this - https://ew.com/tv/2018/11/17/bill-maher-stan-lee-controversy/
It's baffling that Maher would have such a weird, reactionary response to the mourning of Stan Lee. There's clearly something else going on there in repression and projection-ville, but that's a story for another time. I just wanted to save the link here for future reference.
Back to Stan standing on the shoulders of giants.
Born: December 28, 1922, Manhattan, New York City, NY
Died: November 12, 2018, Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles, CA
Full name: Stanley Martin Lieber
Spouse: Joan B. Lee (m. 1947–2017)
Born: September 1, 1926, The Bronx, New York City, NY
Died: June 23, 2011, The Bronx, New York City, NY
Spouse: Adrienne Brickman (m. ?–2010)
Born: November 21, 1938, Brooklyn, New York City, NY
Died: January 10, 2002, Port Jefferson, NY
Spouse: Dolores Buscema (m. 1953–2002)
Born: April 6, 1926, Riga, Latvia
Pseudonym(s): Scott Edward, Gil Stack, Stack Til, Stacktil, Pen Star, Phil Martell
AND THANKFULLY STILL WITH US....
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http://www.comicsbeat.com/a-long-lost-photo-of-jack-kirby-and-stan-lee-has-surfaced/
In a FB thread where this was discussed, folks noted that they had seen Stan and JAck acting friendly at cons of the past, and both were far too grown up to be rude to each other publicly. However, here’s a quote from COMICS INTERVIEW #41 (1986), as reported on FB, the following exchange took place in an interview with Mark Borax and Kirby:
On page 53 Kirby mentions to Mark Borax that the previous day he had an “amicable” conversation with Stan Lee and Jim Shooter. Borax replies enthusiastically, “That’s great!” and adds, “You know the whole world would like to see the two of you shake hands.”Kirby then tells Borax, “We did yesterday. But it resolves nothing. I can’t understand why there’s a struggle over who did what, cause Stan and I know. Nobody else knows. If Stan would only come out of his hiding place and tell the world everything would go great. It isn’t obscure. He knows it, and I know it. There won’t be a resolution. People don’t change. They can’t change. Sometimes it’s too late. You just go on being what you are. Human beings go on being human beings. I can predict everything that Stan will do. I know I can’t change Stan. He says his piece, and I say mine. I could shake hands with Stan till doomsday and it would resolve nothing, the dance goes on.”
Despite the friendly demeanor in this photo, in Jack’s mind it was still an ongoing battle. My guess is that when this photo was taken Kirby was still fighting to get his artwork back, and the pain was still quite raw for him. Nonetheless this is an image every fan who wants mommy and daddy to be friends again can tack over their desk.
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https://thefederalist.com/2018/11/16/stan-lee-jack-kirbys-revolutionary-partnership-changed-superheroes/
Lee’s personality helped fuel this dispute. He was clearly a show-off. Once during an interview with a silent Kirby beside him, Lee took over, rattling off ideas as if he were the only creative person in the room. Among industry figures, Lee was lambasted for not giving Kirby credit in the creation of Marvel’s superheroes.
It could seem that Lee, puckish, tongue-in-cheek, and a lover of the limelight, was little more than the public face of Marvel. Kirby grew disgusted with Lee. According to friend and comic historian Mark Evanier, Kirby was angry he “couldn’t get the proper recognition [from Lee].” Kirby stayed with Marvel solely to take care of his family financially. By 1970, he’d had enough. He switched to Marvel’s competitor, DC.
According to Evanier, Kirby created a character based on Lee named Funky Flashman. Flashman was a self-promoting fraud who took credit for creative work he had no part in.
But the idea that Kirby told the story and Lee adapted the dialogue to it doesn’t hold up. It’s clear Lee was a pioneering and gifted comic book writer. At his best, Lee could capture mood and character with one line. (“With great power comes great responsibility.”) He could get you rooting for a whiny Peter Parker in three panels.
Lee would hop on any trend, and adapt his characters to the needs of Hollywood (during the 1970s Disco era, he pitched Thor as a bed-hopping playboy). But there was something charming about that as well. When the martial arts craze hit, Marvel came up with Iron Fist. When “The Exorcist” broke box office records, Marvel created the Son of Satan and revived Dracula. From “Planet of the Apes” to “Conan the Barbarian,” Marvel was always testing the wind and adapting.
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FROM - https://www.polygon.com/comics/2018/11/16/18098440/stan-lee-black-panther-wakanda
Wakanda was the way Stan Lee spoke to me
What the creation of Black Panther meant to one young comics reader
In 1966, two middle-aged Jewish-American men named Stan Lee and Jack Kirby unleashed the Black Panther and his fictional hidden homeland of Wakanda on the world. Part of the reason the king of Wakanda became my favorite superhero was because, while in New York City with the Avengers, he was essentially an immigrant. T’Challa represented his country to the world in the best possible way, like my parents, who came to America from Haiti in the late 1960s. In the Marvel Universe’s comic-book version of New York, even a king could be an outsider.
Like millions of people all over the world, I’ve been mourning the loss of Stan Lee ever since the iconic creator passed away on Monday. The fictional landscape that Lee helped architect — with Kirby and other legendary artists like John Romita Sr. and Steve Ditko — changed the world of pop culture, resulting in superheroes that felt more grounded and psychologically complex than ever before.
The first comic featuring Black Panther that I read wasn’t by Stan Lee. Avengers #61, written by Roy Thomas, with art by John Buscema, George Klein and Sam Rosen, featured T’Challa early in his Avengers days. As a mystical threat to the world starts to emerge, Black Panther receives an emergency call from far-off Wakanda. My reaction to this scene was to think, “Wait, he’s from somewhere else?” That singular fact made T’Challa stand apart from other black superheroes I’d read about, like Luke Cage or Black Lightning. It also made me look forward to seeing T’Challa in other stories, and sent me hunting to learn more about him.
In Avengers #61, Roy Thomas built on the foundation that Lee and Kirby laid down in the Panther’s first appearances. Eventually, I tracked down Fantastic Four #52, and learned that Wakanda was a place that hid itself from the outside world. It wouldn’t be explicitly expounded upon until decades had passed, but the implicit meaning still was clear: Keeping the outside world away meant that Wakanda controlled its own destiny, avoiding the colonization that had ravaged the African continent. I understood this streak of anticolonialism.
Growing up in the ’70s and ’80s, I absorbed a lot of speeches about Haiti from my mother. Our homeland was the first free black republic in the world, repelling Napoleon’s French armies in a long, bloody war and declaring independence in 1804. Haiti stood as a defiant rejoinder to the idea that black people were inferior. So did Wakanda.
As I’ve thought about the stew of ideas that might have been in Lee’s and Kirby’s heads when they cooked up Wakanda, I’ve wondered how much their experiences as Jewish-American men in the early 20th century might have influenced them. On the African continent, former colonies were fighting to become their own sovereign countries. Here in America, the civil rights movement swirled all around Lee and Kirby, who themselves hailed from a persecuted group that had stereotypes flung it. All of these motifs seemed to be in play in the Panther’s early stories, and it felt like Lee’s stentorian scripting was specifically designed to pull me in.
I didn’t believe myself to be inherently noble or a scientific genius like T’Challa, but he was a stranger in a strange land, and I sometimes felt like that, too. I suffered through all kinds of stereotype-centric jokes as a kid because I was black, and they doubled in vigor when peers found out my mother was Haitian. When you’re the butt of a joke, your true self feels like a rumor no one wants to believe.T’Challa’s archenemy, Klaw, says as much in the climax of the first Black Panther storyline in Fantastic Four; he’s been operating under the assumption that the legendary warrior-king is a myth. In response, Black Panther boldly proclaims, “I exist!” He pretty much does the same thing in Roy Thomas’ story, when his android Avengers teammate Vision asks about Wakanda.
T’Challa is evidence that Stan Lee, his co-creators, and the writers and artists who followed in their footsteps knew that black people existed in a fuller way than was often shown in comics. Some of their well-meaning efforts were clunky and embarrassing, but they were gesturing in the right direction. That was enough for me.
In the Black Panther, I saw a glimmer of the pride that my mom and other Haitian relatives and friends had instilled in me. It was pride that made T’Challa become my favorite superhero. I’ve been lucky enough to write him in Rise of the Black Panther, paying back some of the inspiration that Stan and Jack gave me so long ago.
Evan Narcisse is a journalist and critic who writes about video games, comic books, movies and TV. He’s also the author of the Rise of the Black Panther graphic novel for Marvel Comics.
I wrote a story -- a piece of fiction, really, because there's no real "narrative" in it -- called "Comic Books," which I am going to share Friday here on the blog. I used some of Stan's writing verbatim in one part.
Here it is:
7. I have seen galaxies crumble...and new suns a'borning! But never
have I glimpsed the answer...to
the riddle of the universe!
This is the kind of sentence I go mad for. I would
like to able to write such sentences without embarrassment. I would like to be
able to read them without embarrassment. If I could do these two things, I
could pass my time on earth, like a smug butterfly wrapped in a cocoon.
THANK YOU STAN LEE, FOR EVERYTHING!!
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https://boingboing.net/2018/11/12/comics-legend-stan-lee-dead-at.html
Comics legend Stan Lee dead at 95
The legendary comic-book author, publisher, and film producer Stan Leehas died.
He co-created Spider-Man, The Incredible Hulk, the Avengers, the X-Men, Black Panther, and many more characters and imaginary worlds we've come to know through comic books, games, and movies.
He died at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. The news of his death was first reported by TMZ, and came from Stan's daughter.
Stan Lee, who began in the business in 1939 and created or co-created Black Panther, Spider-Man, X-Men, The Mighty Thor, Iron Man, The Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk, Daredevil, Ant-Man and others, died Monday morning at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center thr.cm/mmZrvs
Stan Lee may be known as a creator, but I think people forget how good he was as a superhero hype man. He talked with the excited energy of someone running into a diner after seeing Spider-Man swing by overhead. He sounded like he had all the secrets and couldn't wait to share.
If you haven't seen it, this is Stan Lee addressing racism in a 1968 edition of Stan's Soapbox, after the assassinations of JFK and MLK.
What an utter shame this advice holds up, word for word, 50 years later.
RIP Stan Lee. I don't claim to be a comics expert, but Marvel's notion that heroes could also be people with neuroses and mundane, messy problems made a big difference in the American conception of heroism generally. Excelsior!
Stan Lee, who began in the business in 1939 and created or co-created Black Panther, Spider-Man, X-Men, The Mighty Thor, Iron Man, The Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk, Daredevil, Ant-Man and others, died Monday morning at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center thr.cm/mmZrvs
my obit for @SYFY on Stan Lee, who died today at 95. An immensely influential man who was equally controversial, his impact on comics & pop culture is hard to overstate. Rest in peace, Stan. syfy.com/syfywire/comic…
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Stan Lee, RIP. Thanks for inspiring so many of us to pick up a pen or pencil and put your dreams onto paper. Excelsior!
It was my great privilege to meet Stan Lee some years ago. My life is immeasurably better for all the heroes and villains he populated it with. #rip and excelsior.
Genuinely impossible to imagine what American pop culture would look like without Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and others who gave us a new model of fairy tales where the freaks, the weirdos, and the outcasts were the heroes and not the monsters.
My favorite Stan Lee moment has to be the time he watched Todd McFarlane and Rob Liefeld design a character while dunking on them the whole time youtube.com/watch?v=RmLFGW…
A Titan just left the Earth. The world became a bit smaller emptier today. RIP Stan Lee, and #Excelsior!
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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/marvel-legend-roy-thomas-visited-stan-lee-days-before-his-death-heres-what-happened
Thank you to all of America's veterans for your service. Fun fact: Stan’s official US Army title during WW2 was ‘Playwright.’ #VeteransDay pic.twitter.com/limi6CWzsL— stan lee (@TheRealStanLee) November 11, 2018
A Statement from Stan Lee’s POW! Entertainment. pic.twitter.com/VjTA3Xn7qX— stan lee (@TheRealStanLee) November 16, 2018
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https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/15/18096855/stan-lee-fan-tribute-video
On Monday, Marvel Comics legend Stan Lee passed away at the age of 95. The scope of his work stretched across many facets of the entertainment world, not just the comics he created,prompting voices from inside the industry and beyond to share their memories of Lee.
On Wednesday, Lee’s official Twitter account posted a short video of him, capturing a spontaneous and authentic moment in which he talked about his fans. The posthumous “thank you” immediately went viral.
So many wonderful moments with Stan came spontaneously. As we were setting up the camera one day, he casually started talking about his fans. We know how much Stan meant to you, and we thought it would be nice for you to hear how much your support meant to him. pic.twitter.com/WTX8U1afLm— stan lee (@TheRealStanLee) November 14, 2018
“Sometimes, at night, when I’m sitting here, and I’m thinking, ‘Oh, what’s it all about?,’” Lee said. “And then I get a letter from a fan, or I read something, or I see something, or I remember something, and I realize, it’s so lucky to have fans ... fans who really care about you.”
The video itself is moving. Lee always had a big heart for his fans and this last glimpse of him talking about how much they mean to him is a fitting goodbye to someone whose path was bumpy and true to Hollywood. No one can deny that Lee loved the people he impacted the most.
The use of Lee’s Twitter account to promote the video is also an eerie reminder of his troubling final months. The account was once managed by POW! Entertainment, a production company he founded in 2001, which Lee sued earlier this year for a fraudulent business deal. Before the lawsuit, a series of concerning tweets emerged from Lee’s account, claiming that he hadn’t been in control of his own profile and still could not access his Instagram and Facebook. This was in response to tweets calling The Hollywood Reporter “fake news” and messages to others in the industry that were not actually tweeted or sent by Stan Lee.
The situation was resolved, with POW! stating that at the time of those flagrant tweets, someone else had control of the account, and from then on, all tweets made by Stan Lee himself would be signed off with “Stan.”
Stan Lee cherished his fans as much as they cherished him. It’s been a rough few days, but the video is a touching reminder that his legacy lives on.
— stan lee (@TheRealStanLee) November 12, 2018
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